I guess this is a very familiar scene at your crag, you’re surrounded by a bunch of guys, one hand on the mobile phone and the other trying to follow instructions to the crux move in that particular route. His hands gesticulate wildly in the air. “Now take the crimp on the left, move your right feet on that tiny black dot above your knee, press and snap on the next hold…..” and the poor guy who’s listening is gaffing up the route and yelling back – “hey thats impossible! Who can ever do such a move like that…” and the discussion continues, on the phone, outside in the wilderness breaking the peace and quiet and your concentration….

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